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Yesterday I had terrible news confirmed to me through the mail....

Manga is NOT SAFE anymore from the Dub Rapists!!!

Those on my list know all too well about how when anime makes it over to America how usually when an anime makes it on TV, it usually becomes a Saturday morning or kids' afternoon block show and as a result becomes heavily edited and even some names changed. Even those that are shown late at night on CN are edited somewhat....

The most blatant examples are Shaman King and One Piece. In SK, Manta is Morty, Ren is Len(ny) and Ryo is Rio and Faust VIII isn't a necromancer he's a "boneyard sorcerer" and instead of showing the "oh so horrid vision" of Manta being splayed on a slab and disected alive by a skeleton, it showed a skeleton reaching in with a large glowing ball of energy over the chest.

One Piece, the stuff I caught was that they changed Zoro's name to Zolo and in the part when he's introduced, he's prisoner of this corrupt navy guy and this sweet kid (in the manga version) brings him rice ball cakes but in the dub he is brought cookies. There's also a character that is a smoker and they're rumored to have changed this guy to be sucking lolipops instead!

Anyway I got the new Shonen Jump today and I heard about this on here, that they changed Zoro to Zolo in the manga too and I was like "No way! What's the point in that? If they are changing this just because little kiddies would be wanting to go and read Shonen Jump now because of One Piece, then why haven't they changed Shaman King now?"

and that question will always stand because I was shocked, they DID change Zoro to Zolo and they didn't even admit why??? Not only that, but they made that change to the One Piece manga but I flip over to Shaman King and all the character names are the same! Maybe I should give them a month or so no????

If manga isn't safe...... *sigh*

anyway, go here.....



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Oct. 26th, 2004 08:54 am (UTC)
Well even Cartoon Network has to edit it somewhat. They don't make the calls, the programmer does. Even though CN plays some good anime on Adult Swim, it is edited so it can be placed onto television. The only places I know that doesn't edit anything out is in Japan and Brazil. I watched all the Neon Genesis Evangelion uncut there and there were many others.
Oct. 26th, 2004 01:37 pm (UTC)
I'm not trying to be mean, but why can't anyone just be happy that anime and manga are being brought over to America? Everyone's so picky about it...If you can't stand the dub version, simply don't watch it, buy it when it comes out on DVD and watch it in japanese!
Oct. 26th, 2004 01:58 pm (UTC)
The thing is that I am one of many that thought until now that manga was "safe" and that if one would want to even come close to the "original" stuff without having to learn Japanese and buy from there, then they can go buy the manga to see the original scenes.

Now it's like "You have to learn Japanese and buy overseas." *sigh*
Oct. 26th, 2004 03:20 pm (UTC)
Noo..it's more like find scanlations online? Or even with that, everything's going to get changed when it's translated. No translation's going to be perfect. I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be mean or bitch you out about your opinion but it seems like anime and manga fans are like this constantly now. What happened to being grateful, even if it isn't the best translation?
Oct. 26th, 2004 04:50 pm (UTC)
know you weren't being mean *hugs*
though isn't it wierd that ever since American SJ started, that Zoro was Zoro and not Zolo and then all of a sudden, the anime was brought over about two weeks ago and then all of a sudden it'z "Zolo" in SJ too? Also like I said I don't understand why they did that but yet the anime of "Shaman King" was over here for months and SJ hasn't changed all the names in that one at all...though I'd give them a few months.

Maybe since they went ahead and did the Faust VIII story without changing it too much, maybe they are thinking to wait until Yoh moves on from him and then change the names.
Oct. 26th, 2004 03:22 pm (UTC)
I do realize though that you can't find scanlations to every manga. It's just... a matter of my own opinion, as is yours :)
Oct. 26th, 2004 03:33 pm (UTC)
...brings him rice ball cakes but in the dub he is brought cookies.

How did they get away with that, I mean the kid had to walk up with this big white round rice ball in his hand. Anybody could see that it wasn't a cookie! :p I have to agree that there doesn't seem much point in changing the names. It's not like you are going to currupt anybody with names like those :p I can see them editing the material though, if they are going to show it on the channels that kids primarely watch. I really wouldn't want my kid seeing some guy being disembowled, of course, I'm not even going to have cable or a t.v. with rabbit ears, so no worries there :p

Much Hope and Many Blessings! =^_^=
Oct. 26th, 2004 05:22 pm (UTC)
They have to edit some things or else people in the world will become worse than they already are. Especailly if it's a kid's show.
Oct. 26th, 2004 05:44 pm (UTC)
Wasn't talking about the animes dubbed or subbed
Was actually trying to talk about the Shonen Jump mangas and OP in particular...I don't think manga should be changed. All the manga have ratings on them for crying out loud, they should be kept as faithful as possible but (using OP as an example) changing one letter in a name and changing one character's oral fixation and one addiction (nicotine) for another (sugar highs) are ridiculous since manga is rated like video games and people should know better.
Oct. 26th, 2004 05:55 pm (UTC)
Re: Wasn't talking about the animes dubbed or subbed
People know better, but kids don't..
Oct. 26th, 2004 06:50 pm (UTC)
yeah that's kinda the point I thought of right when I posted comment.
maybe they are starting to cover their butts since now they have three mangas that are now on Saturday morning TV...one that's even on two channels practically 7 days a week on various times, and since the pre-teens are going off away from the folks and seeing SJ and at least thinking "Oooh a comic/manga" or maybe going "Ohh it's Yugi (or Yoh or Luffy)" when they have one of them giant on the cover, they aren't gonna look for the rating, especially when it's not really big and noticeable, right?
Oct. 26th, 2004 07:00 pm (UTC)
Re: yeah that's kinda the point I thought of right when I posted comment.
Exactly, I mean they showed Sailor Moon on tv, which was for kids...but they butchered it up pretty bad so it'd be ok for them to see. Now they didn't do that with the manga, but do you think kids are gonna know that? Any kid who likes sailor Moon would try reading the manga and get very disturbed...(heck I don't even read it)
Oct. 26th, 2004 05:24 pm (UTC)
Oh and if you're wondering about the Zoro to Zolo thing, I don't know if you noticed but they often change R's to L's or viceversa in dubbed anime. In Japan, R's and L's are the same thing.
Oct. 26th, 2004 05:40 pm (UTC)
I know but they had it Zoro for since they started the mag...OP was one of the mangas they started the American SJ out with. And as for changing stuff around (if they change the name they more certainly would have that one guy suck a lolli instead of smoking...) the one thing that I left out of the post is that SJ is an anthology for teenager and up. The kiddies aren't really supposed to pick it up whether or not there's Yugi in it and stuff. That's why they always have that "T" in the corner somewhere on one of the covers.

If SJ is marketed toward teens and older then why are they changing around? Might as well just flip the YGO manga forward into Duel Monsters and change the names and do the editing...same thing with SK and the rest.
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