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going back over older posts...

I just saw one post I wrote while lamenting Hispanic characters on TV. It reminded me of reading this article more recently about that same thing and now I know that it has a name: "Spanglish"!! The article said something about how it's now "cool" to speak Spanish or "cool" to speak another language or maybe it was saying how "cool" it is to speak a few words in another language...

WHATEVER!!!!

My question still remains....why is SPANISH so damned special that there's these Hispanic characters on TV that either once in a while, once every two weeks or days, or every other word, is a mix of Spanish and English???

I mean it still is quite STUPID to hear one of them say "It's all for the best mijo so calm down, por favor" "Dios mio mama! Okay okay..."!!

Gosh if two contestants on the recent "Survivor" can have an entire damned conversation in freaking CANTONESE then why not have Hispanic TV show characters either speak all in English or all in Spanish with subtitles??? I for one don't give a flying F how cool Spanish or "Spanglish" is! It irritates the shit out of me....

Besides if they have the dark Hispanic complexion, stick together with their familia, are hard working blue collar people, have Spanish flavored parties with pinatas, etc. then that's Hispanic enough for me....they (including the writers and producers) don't have to pull this "Spanglish" bullshit!

I say that if the actors and everyone INSIST on "Spanglish" then the Irish characters ought to speak "Gaelish," the Poles ought to speak in "Polinglish," and I think that it would be equally fair and hilarious if there were a dignified way for Japanese characters to talk in ENGRISH!! LOL

Q: What do the concoctors of crap like "Spanglish" have under their pants/kilts/etc?

A: NOTHING, they are so STUPID they wear their knickers on their shrunken little heads!!

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loreeley
Mar. 28th, 2003 01:09 am (UTC)
I dare to disagree!!!!
Spanish is cool...
Spanish is sexy...
Spanish weather is wonderful...
Spanish architecture is beautiful
And most of all, Spanish men...must I say more??! ;-P

And Latin American men are even better.

Aye caramba!!
skrain_bodak
Mar. 28th, 2003 09:03 pm (UTC)
off by 90 degrees
I was meaning that since it's quite obvious that TV runs on stereotypes a lot, that there's years of proof that an ethnic group's stereotypes on TV doesn't have to include dialog that's 99.999 out of 10 words English and 0.001% of the mother tongue. Black people have always been painted as criminals and gang members, eating chicken a lot and listening to hip hop but I haven't noticed them speaking Ebonics or Ebonglish. Italians fare better since all they do is move their hands a lot and eat and whenever they speak Italian, it's 100% Italian dialog with usually subtitles. Asians aren't usually speaking in Chinese, Japanese, etc but they do have Asian accents and have all that Asian stereotype stuff like the old fart women wanting their daughters and granddaughters to marry only Asians (and SMART Asians at that!) and playing Mah Jonng and doing all that magical good luck stuff.

Besides the other thing I was essentially saying is that the producers are edging this Spanglish in to attract demographics....both the Hispanic viewer and the view that does think Spanish is cool. I'm not saying I don't think Spanish is cool but it is demographically incorrect to have a bunch of characters of Spanish decent have 1-10 Spanish words in a dialog. All the Hispanics I've seen do speak both English and Spanish but either they are on their green card, illegal, or they have become legal and made something of themselves. Out of those three types, the first two speak "Spanish only" conversations unless they absolutely HAVE to speak English and the third type does speak English more often and probably never knew Spanish as a first language or doesn't use it that often.

I think to really attract the demographic, they really need to be demographically correct. This Spanglish bullcrap isn't demographically correct because no real Hispanic speaks a dialog like that
loreeley
Mar. 28th, 2003 01:12 am (UTC)
and again...
"cool" to speak another language
Well well well...
Over 90% of the world's population don't speak English as their first language you know. And a large portion of people do speak more than one language. It is time the US catch on and learn some languages!!!!!!!
jackie_oh
Mar. 28th, 2003 12:40 pm (UTC)
I agree. It really bugs me when people are naming off races and foget mine, Asian! They're all like, "Are you... white, black, hispanic?" I'm like no ASIAN! There are hardly any shows that cast Asian-Americans in leading role, and when it was tried it got shot down (All-American girl starring Margaret Cho) Connie Chung is probably the most famous Asian-American on TV. And I can't think of any famous Asian-American actors. It makes me angry how we are left out. Sometimes I want to scream, "We're a minority too!"

And if we Asian-Ameicans are in a "big role"... like that would ever happen... it would be a computer nerd, or something like that. We are always type cast. Where-as you have hispanic doctors and police-men, heck even family men... you can't say that for us...

Yes, we Asian-Americans are the most un-reconized minority, and hopefully with movies like Better Luck Tomorrow, we won't be.

(And when I mean Asian-American actors, I am excluding people like Jet Li, Jackie Chan, and Xian-zi-ye because they were famous in their home countries before they made it big here in America. I also mean, second generation Americans like myself.)
skrain_bodak
Mar. 28th, 2003 09:06 pm (UTC)
90 degrees out of phase
I am posting the same reply to you so you could see it in your box too......the both of ya aren't getting it exactly......

I was meaning that since it's quite obvious that TV runs on stereotypes a lot, that there's years of proof that an ethnic group's stereotypes on TV doesn't have to include dialog that's 99.999 out of 10 words English and 0.001% of the mother tongue. Black people have always been painted as criminals and gang members, eating chicken a lot and listening to hip hop but I haven't noticed them speaking Ebonics or Ebonglish. Italians fare better since all they do is move their hands a lot and eat and whenever they speak Italian, it's 100% Italian dialog with usually subtitles. Asians aren't usually speaking in Chinese, Japanese, etc but they do have Asian accents and have all that Asian stereotype stuff like the old fart women wanting their daughters and granddaughters to marry only Asians (and SMART Asians at that!) and playing Mah Jonng and doing all that magical good luck stuff.

Besides the other thing I was essentially saying is that the producers are edging this Spanglish in to attract demographics....both the Hispanic viewer and the view that does think Spanish is cool. I'm not saying I don't think Spanish is cool but it is demographically incorrect to have a bunch of characters of Spanish decent have 1-10 Spanish words in a dialog. All the Hispanics I've seen do speak both English and Spanish but either they are on their green card, illegal, or they have become legal and made something of themselves. Out of those three types, the first two speak "Spanish only" conversations unless they absolutely HAVE to speak English and the third type does speak English more often and probably never knew Spanish as a first language or doesn't use it that often.

I think to really attract the demographic, they really need to be demographically correct. This Spanglish bullcrap isn't demographically correct because no real Hispanic speaks a dialog like that
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